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Vintage Jesus

“Vintage jesus” is perhaps on the top of the list of books I want to read.  But until I get a physical copy in my hands, I can get stuck into the following tidbits from a number of chapters:

This book, co-authored by Mark Driscoll and Dr Gerry Breshears is based on a the Vintage Jesus sermon series preached at Mars Hill Church in 2007. Love this kind of work as it presents the truth of Jesus in an accurate, no nonsense, religious free context. His life, death and resurrection have nothing to do with religion - it’s a love story between a Holy God and a fallen mankind.

A Different Spirit

I was checking out the Mars Hill website tonight and came across their vital links section on Jesus. Even though Mars Hill cops a lot of crap form both liberals and conservatives, the one thing I hold them in high esteem is their undiluted surrender to the authority of Scripture.

As a “moderate” Christian, I can relate to this take. I have reservations to Christian tradition and liberalism - choosing instead to remain relevant to modern society while grounded in ancient doctrine.

But one thing that struck me tonight as I checked out their Jesus section was the following passage:

“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.” 2 Cor 11:3-4

Apparently it’s totally possible to be a follower of Jesus and still be susceptible to “receiving a different spirit” from the one we receive when we accept Christ. This sends shivers up my spine - the fact that although we are “sealed by the Spirit” we can still be influenced by an outside influence in the following manner:

  • You actually chose to accept another spirit
  • You do it without questioning
  • You put up with it
  • You are being conned just like Eve in the Garden

When we read the Genesis account, internally we may think, “Eve - why were you so dumb?” We do this not realising that we do the same thing ourselves when we accept as “truth” things which border on truth but which have been slightly skewed.

I know I may come across all “fundie” with this post, but I strongly believe that some of what the Emergent church promotes comes from this “different spirit.” As I’ve said before, I think it’s great to question fundamentalism and traditions, but there’s a line that shouldn’t be crossed when you start questioning doctrine.

The above verse has brought this reality to my mind even more and that’s why I appreciate even more Mars Hill attempt at presenting Jesus from Scripture. Be sure to check out their section here.

3 Responses

With all the talk these days about Emergent/Missional and Seeker Sensitive Churches plus the discussion around liberal or fundamental Churches and whatever else, I ground myself in Scripture as to what to expect as a reaction to the Gospel being taught.

As Christians, lets not kid ourselves about the message we deliver. We preach Jesus’ life, death and resurrection and the reasons for it. This is the Gospel and this is the message we are asked to spread across the whole earth.

All the different streams of Christianity mentioned above attempt to get this message across in a meaningful way in the hope that people respond to it. But what gets in the way is when we deliver it in a way to maximize acceptance rather then focus on the substance of what we teach.

More and more I am shifting my opinion to focusing on the message instead of focusing on the acceptance of it. And in doing so, scripture says that we will always encounter 3 responses to what we believe:

  1. Disbelief and mockery
  2. Interest and further discussion
  3. Belief and commitment

As anyone following this blog would know, I am a fan of Mark Driscoll and the Church he pastors - Mars Hill Church. Mars Hill gets its name from an interesting passage of scriptures found in Acts 17 when Paul visits Athens. The entire story can be read here.

In a nutshell, Paul visits Athens and is moved by the idolatry found there. Being the center of civilised society, Athens is alive with culture, education and arts. But because of the idols found in the town, Paul is moved to reason with the Jews, devout people, anyone in the market place and philosophers about the Gospel.

Read the passage this way: Paul speaks to everybody and anybody about the Gospel. And in doing so, he comes across Epicurean & Stoic philosophers. The “epics” taught that the pursuit of pleasure, not knowledge, is the meaning of life. The “stoics” taught that wisdom is found in being free from intense emotion, unmoved by joy or grief and a belief that everything in nature is God - aka pantheism.

In many ways, what the “epics” and “stoics” stood for is what we in modern society also hold dear to our hearts.  So perceived as a “babbler,” Paul is asked to address Mars Hill - where all these goonies get together and try to “out-philosophise” each other. There, Paul tells the Gospel in a relevant and missional way - a way their mindset is able to digest.

The result of this?

Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked. But others said, “We will hear you again about this.” So Paul went out from their midst.  But some men joined him and believed, among whom also were Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them. Acts 17:32-34

Here are our 3 responses:

  1. Some mocked
  2. Some wanted to know more
  3. Some believed

What Paul did was address Mars Hill in a relevant, and yet confrontational way - not shying away from controversial issues and then he hit the topic of resurrection. And this is when “the *@!# hit the fan” at Mars Hill.  Anything in regards to resurrection was a major issue at Mars Hill given their philosophical beliefs - and this is probably why Paul didn’t get to finish his spiel and get to his favorite topic - the resurrection of his Messiah.  And Paul simply left Athens leaving a few members of Mars Hill as believers, some wanted to know more and probably most chasing him out of Athens in mockery.

Fast forward 2000 years and we find ourselves in the ridiculous cycle of which “conversation” or approach is better in getting people to accept the Gospel of Jesus.  I hear and get every perspective:

  • To the fundamentals, I get your desire to hold onto truth and prevent the twisting of scripture in order to make the Gospel more “palatable” to the masses.
  • To the emergents, I get your desire to present the Gospel in a relevant, new and fresh way - to keep up with the times.
But what I don’t get is when “fundies” hold onto traditions while forsaking modern culture.  And what I don’t get is when “emergies” in their pursuit of relevance, question the doctrines of scripture.  It’s OK to question traditions - but don’t question doctrine.
To both camps, I say:  Remember that the truth of the Gospel will always encounter 3 responses:
  1. Disbelief and mockery
  2. Interest and further discussion
  3. Belief and commitment
That’s why I so like the “missional” mindset of Christianity - to present the never changing truths of Scripture in a modern cultural context. Forget about the two extremes of the church - fundamentalism and liberalism - they focus on irrelevant issues.  
Paul presented the Gospel in a cultural context.  At Mars Hill, he didn’t bother getting into historic Judaism as he did elsewhere - he met his listeners where they were at.  But he didn’t shy away from tough topics which made him look like a goofball to some and downright offensive to others.  He stuck to the truth, he experienced the “3 responses” and he moved on.
Some mocked.  Some wanted more.  Some believed.  Paul left Athens.
When the modern Church teaches, it has to understand that the same principles apply:
  1. Teach truth in cultural context.
  2. Don’t shy away from tough topics.  
  3. Experience the 3 responses.
  4. Move on.
I hope I’ve opened that can of worms inside. Please tell.