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		<title>Comment on Bush On Biometric ID System by LayGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/03/bush-on-biometric-id-system/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zabs,

Thanks for stopping by!  Congrats on the birth of your daughter.

In regards to your comment, trust me, I know of the problem you guys have in the US.  And I never said that a tamper proof card or Bush has anything to do with the Anti Christ.

But what strikes me is precedent such a measure incorporates.  A "tamper proof" card is such an ideal scenario.  How long would it take to fake these cards?  And what steps would be taken to rectify this?

Trust me, I'm not anti Bush.  I'm anti World Government.  Bush is simply a pawn behind a world wide push to set in motion the agenda of the Anti Christ. 

In the name of protecting sovereign nations and taxes etc, society eagerly embraces any technology.  I just raise the question, "at what cost are these seemingly harmless measures going to take on our liberties?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zabs,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!  Congrats on the birth of your daughter.</p>
<p>In regards to your comment, trust me, I know of the problem you guys have in the US.  And I never said that a tamper proof card or Bush has anything to do with the Anti Christ.</p>
<p>But what strikes me is precedent such a measure incorporates.  A &#8220;tamper proof&#8221; card is such an ideal scenario.  How long would it take to fake these cards?  And what steps would be taken to rectify this?</p>
<p>Trust me, I&#8217;m not anti Bush.  I&#8217;m anti World Government.  Bush is simply a pawn behind a world wide push to set in motion the agenda of the Anti Christ. </p>
<p>In the name of protecting sovereign nations and taxes etc, society eagerly embraces any technology.  I just raise the question, &#8220;at what cost are these seemingly harmless measures going to take on our liberties?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush On Biometric ID System by Mommy Zabs</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/03/bush-on-biometric-id-system/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommy Zabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stopped by first time in a long time!  I have to say i disagree with you on this.  You don't understand the problem we have here.  To have a tamper proof card for legal immigrants to prove their citizenship is hardly the mark of the beast... people said the same once of social security cards.  It's just about making sure the people in the states are documented if they work.... has to do with paying taxes and having benefits as well.  THis isn't a big deal.  A lot of people may not like bush, but he isn't the anti-Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stopped by first time in a long time!  I have to say i disagree with you on this.  You don&#8217;t understand the problem we have here.  To have a tamper proof card for legal immigrants to prove their citizenship is hardly the mark of the beast&#8230; people said the same once of social security cards.  It&#8217;s just about making sure the people in the states are documented if they work&#8230;. has to do with paying taxes and having benefits as well.  THis isn&#8217;t a big deal.  A lot of people may not like bush, but he isn&#8217;t the anti-Christ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Piper On Perseverance by LayGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/29/piper-on-perseverance/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Mark!  Glad you enjoyed the clip, check out all his video's on YouTube here: 

http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=DGJohnPiper

And bi jingo crikey!  First you're on Facebook and now you're commenting on my blog!  U becoming a geek like me or something! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Mark!  Glad you enjoyed the clip, check out all his video&#8217;s on YouTube here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=DGJohnPiper" >http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=DGJohnPiper</a></p>
<p>And bi jingo crikey!  First you&#8217;re on Facebook and now you&#8217;re commenting on my blog!  U becoming a geek like me or something! <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Piper On Perseverance by Mark Jursic</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/29/piper-on-perseverance/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Jursic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi mate,

So few words yet filled with such powerful truth.  I love the way Piper articulates the sermon and draws us into a deeper revelation of God's transforming Word.  It really is a matter of how we see God and whether or not He has the capacity or will to keep us.  To lose one's salvation is not a matter of how weak we see ourselves, but how powerfully we see God.  If He said He will lose none that belong to Him, then I must believe that He also has the means to keep me with Him.  Despite moments of sin, His love and power are even greater than those.  I am redeemed, saved, called and kept by my Jesus.  Without Him I am dead!

Keep on living it,
Pastor Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mate,</p>
<p>So few words yet filled with such powerful truth.  I love the way Piper articulates the sermon and draws us into a deeper revelation of God&#8217;s transforming Word.  It really is a matter of how we see God and whether or not He has the capacity or will to keep us.  To lose one&#8217;s salvation is not a matter of how weak we see ourselves, but how powerfully we see God.  If He said He will lose none that belong to Him, then I must believe that He also has the means to keep me with Him.  Despite moments of sin, His love and power are even greater than those.  I am redeemed, saved, called and kept by my Jesus.  Without Him I am dead!</p>
<p>Keep on living it,<br />
Pastor Mark.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Piper On Perseverance by LayGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/29/piper-on-perseverance/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Blaine - thanks for stopping by.  With you saying A/G, does that mean Assembly of God?  If so, I'd be interested to know which line of thinking AOG churches take.  IE, are they more Calvanistic or Armenian or whatever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Blaine - thanks for stopping by.  With you saying A/G, does that mean Assembly of God?  If so, I&#8217;d be interested to know which line of thinking AOG churches take.  IE, are they more Calvanistic or Armenian or whatever?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Piper On Perseverance by Blaine Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that Piper vid.  Though I am an A/G minister here in the U.S., I am quite Calvinistic and I love the way Piper handles Scripture - with respect, reverence and thoughtfulness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that Piper vid.  Though I am an A/G minister here in the U.S., I am quite Calvinistic and I love the way Piper handles Scripture - with respect, reverence and thoughtfulness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on USA - Police State by SPP</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughts are the shadows of our sensations--always darker, emptier, simpler than these.FriedrichWilhelmNietzscheFriedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche</description>
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		<title>Comment on USA - Police State by Surveillance Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/09/28/usa-police-state/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Surveillance Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a good thing for the uneducated man to read books of quotations.SirWinstonChurchillSir Winston Churchill, 1874-1965</description>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by Blaine Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again - no, I'm afraid I'm only familiar with Craig Groeschel's name, and not his teaching.

I did listen to your message - right on!  Just recently I was teaching our teenagers about "praying in Jesus' name."  It just kills me when folks flip that line out at the end of a prayer without thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again - no, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m only familiar with Craig Groeschel&#8217;s name, and not his teaching.</p>
<p>I did listen to your message - right on!  Just recently I was teaching our teenagers about &#8220;praying in Jesus&#8217; name.&#8221;  It just kills me when folks flip that line out at the end of a prayer without thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by LayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I love that video and actually used it in a message i shared at church - found here:

http://citywestchurch.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=50&#038;Itemid=59

Scroll down to week 17

I recently also posted another message by Piper here regarding the same thing:

http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/05/being-salty-not-wealthy/

Am surprised to see that Craig Groeschel from LifeChurch.tv is going to be their next year - I would go just to check him out and party with United.  

Craig's church seems extremely different to Hillsong. Do you know much of him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I love that video and actually used it in a message i shared at church - found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://citywestchurch.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=50&#038;Itemid=59" >http://citywestchurch.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=50&#038;Itemid=59</a></p>
<p>Scroll down to week 17</p>
<p>I recently also posted another message by Piper here regarding the same thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/05/being-salty-not-wealthy/" >http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/05/being-salty-not-wealthy/</a></p>
<p>Am surprised to see that Craig Groeschel from LifeChurch.tv is going to be their next year - I would go just to check him out and party with United.  </p>
<p>Craig&#8217;s church seems extremely different to Hillsong. Do you know much of him?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by Blaine Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/17/hillsong-conference-2008-highlights/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and I was disappointed when I noticed somewhere along the line that Hillsong had played at Osteen's church.

But you're right about the younger Houston.  I like where he's coming from.  And on a semi-related note, you've probably seen John Piper's refreshingly bold statements against the prosperity "gospel" :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc_FoELt8s&#38;feature=related


http://theverticall.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and I was disappointed when I noticed somewhere along the line that Hillsong had played at Osteen&#8217;s church.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right about the younger Houston.  I like where he&#8217;s coming from.  And on a semi-related note, you&#8217;ve probably seen John Piper&#8217;s refreshingly bold statements against the prosperity &#8220;gospel&#8221; :  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc_FoELt8s&amp;feature=related" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc_FoELt8s&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theverticall.blogspot.com/" >http://theverticall.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by LayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a personal hatred for the "prosperity gospel" - seriously does my head in.  And that's my only gripe against Hillsong - the whole prosperity thing.  Jesus didn't die to make me rich.  This year seemed a little better in that regard to last year - which I attended (actually I feature in one of Jentezen Franklin's video's - which also does my head in :))

I'm glad Brian's son seems compelled to reach out to the lost and needy much more than his daddy.

Next year Mr Joel Osteen is making an appearance - automatically disqualified me from attending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a personal hatred for the &#8220;prosperity gospel&#8221; - seriously does my head in.  And that&#8217;s my only gripe against Hillsong - the whole prosperity thing.  Jesus didn&#8217;t die to make me rich.  This year seemed a little better in that regard to last year - which I attended (actually I feature in one of Jentezen Franklin&#8217;s video&#8217;s - which also does my head in :))</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Brian&#8217;s son seems compelled to reach out to the lost and needy much more than his daddy.</p>
<p>Next year Mr Joel Osteen is making an appearance - automatically disqualified me from attending.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by Blaine Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, she shows up near the end of the video.  I associate her with the name-it-claim-it-prosperity-gospel group. :P Not someone I expected to see at a Hillsong conference.  The rest of the content of the video is very much Gospel and Christ oriented and I, too, wish I could have been there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, she shows up near the end of the video.  I associate her with the name-it-claim-it-prosperity-gospel group. <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> Not someone I expected to see at a Hillsong conference.  The rest of the content of the video is very much Gospel and Christ oriented and I, too, wish I could have been there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by LayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who's she?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Hillsong Conference 2008 Highlights by Blaine Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uuuuuhhh...Marilyn Hickey???!!?!?!</description>
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		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/11/15/man-turning-into-a-tree/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tree Man - Volconvo Debate Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bill Hybels says &#8220;We Made A Mistake&#8221; by Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is that Satanic advert for Satanistic jewelry doing in your webpage? Can I suggest that you find out? I am glad that a seeker-sensitive church has repented...they are not preaching the gospel of Christ but entertaining the unrepentant. It would be great if more could turn from their worldliness! Beware of Contemporary Christian Music too - it is also advertised on this site!
Yours faithfully,
Debbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is that Satanic advert for Satanistic jewelry doing in your webpage? Can I suggest that you find out? I am glad that a seeker-sensitive church has repented&#8230;they are not preaching the gospel of Christ but entertaining the unrepentant. It would be great if more could turn from their worldliness! Beware of Contemporary Christian Music too - it is also advertised on this site!<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
Debbie</p>
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		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LayGuy, i'm tired to contact you with your email, you are missing your request, please tell me which software?

@..I made this offer within my possibility, only person can know exactly it's legit or not, he's in here :) however for security reason, i can not provide you more information, just try to download and use you will understand.

Nothing comes for free, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LayGuy, i&#8217;m tired to contact you with your email, you are missing your request, please tell me which software?</p>
<p>@..I made this offer within my possibility, only person can know exactly it&#8217;s legit or not, he&#8217;s in here <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> however for security reason, i can not provide you more information, just try to download and use you will understand.</p>
<p>Nothing comes for free, right?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shack - A Trinity Shocker! by Patrick Ballington</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/04/15/the-shack-a-trinity-shocker/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Ballington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a pastor of a church with a very conservative doctrine and practice.  I read the book and, while I do believe the author presents ideas that were already rejected since the time of Christ as bad theology, most of what the author seems to had done is try to present God as more relational than the vast majority of people (including Christians) percieve HIM to be.

I LOVE Mark Driscoll -- even his rantings on Emergent Theology (which I agree with Driscoll) and femanism phobia (kidding  -- but Mark does come of hyper macho at times).  I also love Driscoll when he comes back to cnetr and apologizes for rantings that go way over the line -- show him to be passionate yet human.

The point Mark Driscoll makes that leaves me feeling he missed the point is that God the Father first appears as an African American woman just to break the preconconeptions of the Mack.  Later in the book God the Father appears as a man because Mack will need a father figure to face that days revelations.

I guess the whole "graven image" argument would be mute for Driscoll of at The Shack we had the Middle Eastern figure, Jesus, and the Asian chick, Holy Spirit, without the Papa figure, God.  Maybe it would have been better to give the Asian figure wings -- preferably white like a dove - and just let God the Father be the booming voice from the sky like at Jesus baptism in Scripture.  

As for the modalism argument, I really think the authro just used sloppy wording and imagery to try and correct a misconception that some may have through reading the book that the 3 are so separate they lose their oneness.  But hten again, I am assuming much on the side of grace for the authro with limited vocabulary to work with.

My final assesment - the more you tell people, including Christians, NOT to read a book the more they will actually do so.  The same was true fro the DaVinci Code book and movie.  (What is it about forbidden fruit that we love so much?)

Avoidance of controversy and issues like this are norm for the church.  The TRUTH will survivie any challenge and any debate.  I do not agree with some of the doctrine and theology presented in the book.  I am THRILLED that several people in my church who have lived at distance from following Christ as well as many more who have never attended church and been turned off by church and faith in Christ as they have witnessed in being lived or not-lived by others are reading the book and asking questions and reconsidering their views of God and faith and church that have kept them away.

I tedn to approach these things like the Apostle Paul in Athens.  I don't set out to slam the teachings of false religions (Greek Mythology and Paganism) or even the cultural artists of the day (like the Greek poets) but search for a connecting point that serves a launching pad to help direct and guide people to the TRUTH of God and man and sin and salvation as revealed IN SCRIPTURE.  The Shack is giving me lots of connecting points.  

"Men of Athens,  I can see that you are religious people...let's talk about the UNKONWN GOD."  (Acts 7)

And let's face it, as a pastor and one whose life is devoted solely to the mission of helping people living far from God to connect with Him through the salavation of Jesus Christ, it can sometimes be more effective to tell some, "why don't you read The Shack and then let's talk" instead of "why don't read THE BIBLE and let's talk".  Sad but true -- too many have formed opinions about the BIble without ever reading and the set out to dicredit it to others who have not read it.

How is what we are doing different if we fail to read The Shack and persuade others to do the same?

The Shack is interesting and may be an entry point to someone really starting their pursuit of God as long as the BIBLE is next on their list of books to read.  Wonder if Amazon has thought of packaging the two together? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a pastor of a church with a very conservative doctrine and practice.  I read the book and, while I do believe the author presents ideas that were already rejected since the time of Christ as bad theology, most of what the author seems to had done is try to present God as more relational than the vast majority of people (including Christians) percieve HIM to be.</p>
<p>I LOVE Mark Driscoll &#8212; even his rantings on Emergent Theology (which I agree with Driscoll) and femanism phobia (kidding  &#8212; but Mark does come of hyper macho at times).  I also love Driscoll when he comes back to cnetr and apologizes for rantings that go way over the line &#8212; show him to be passionate yet human.</p>
<p>The point Mark Driscoll makes that leaves me feeling he missed the point is that God the Father first appears as an African American woman just to break the preconconeptions of the Mack.  Later in the book God the Father appears as a man because Mack will need a father figure to face that days revelations.</p>
<p>I guess the whole &#8220;graven image&#8221; argument would be mute for Driscoll of at The Shack we had the Middle Eastern figure, Jesus, and the Asian chick, Holy Spirit, without the Papa figure, God.  Maybe it would have been better to give the Asian figure wings &#8212; preferably white like a dove - and just let God the Father be the booming voice from the sky like at Jesus baptism in Scripture.  </p>
<p>As for the modalism argument, I really think the authro just used sloppy wording and imagery to try and correct a misconception that some may have through reading the book that the 3 are so separate they lose their oneness.  But hten again, I am assuming much on the side of grace for the authro with limited vocabulary to work with.</p>
<p>My final assesment - the more you tell people, including Christians, NOT to read a book the more they will actually do so.  The same was true fro the DaVinci Code book and movie.  (What is it about forbidden fruit that we love so much?)</p>
<p>Avoidance of controversy and issues like this are norm for the church.  The TRUTH will survivie any challenge and any debate.  I do not agree with some of the doctrine and theology presented in the book.  I am THRILLED that several people in my church who have lived at distance from following Christ as well as many more who have never attended church and been turned off by church and faith in Christ as they have witnessed in being lived or not-lived by others are reading the book and asking questions and reconsidering their views of God and faith and church that have kept them away.</p>
<p>I tedn to approach these things like the Apostle Paul in Athens.  I don&#8217;t set out to slam the teachings of false religions (Greek Mythology and Paganism) or even the cultural artists of the day (like the Greek poets) but search for a connecting point that serves a launching pad to help direct and guide people to the TRUTH of God and man and sin and salvation as revealed IN SCRIPTURE.  The Shack is giving me lots of connecting points.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Men of Athens,  I can see that you are religious people&#8230;let&#8217;s talk about the UNKONWN GOD.&#8221;  (Acts 7)</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s face it, as a pastor and one whose life is devoted solely to the mission of helping people living far from God to connect with Him through the salavation of Jesus Christ, it can sometimes be more effective to tell some, &#8220;why don&#8217;t you read The Shack and then let&#8217;s talk&#8221; instead of &#8220;why don&#8217;t read THE BIBLE and let&#8217;s talk&#8221;.  Sad but true &#8212; too many have formed opinions about the BIble without ever reading and the set out to dicredit it to others who have not read it.</p>
<p>How is what we are doing different if we fail to read The Shack and persuade others to do the same?</p>
<p>The Shack is interesting and may be an entry point to someone really starting their pursuit of God as long as the BIBLE is next on their list of books to read.  Wonder if Amazon has thought of packaging the two together? <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Get Windows Vista Ulimate For Free! by Michael Aulia</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/07/get-windows-vista-ulimate-for-free/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't reformatted my Windows yet (waiting for my new 750 GB harddrive :) so I can't comment on the Windows yet), but I've been using a Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0 license key from the same site for some time now and I haven't got blacklisted so far</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t reformatted my Windows yet (waiting for my new 750 GB harddrive <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> so I can&#8217;t comment on the Windows yet), but I&#8217;ve been using a Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0 license key from the same site for some time now and I haven&#8217;t got blacklisted so far</p>
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		<title>Comment on Get Windows Vista Ulimate For Free! by LayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Can you comment on the above?</description>
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<p>Can you comment on the above?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Get Windows Vista Ulimate For Free! by Can we be sure?</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/07/get-windows-vista-ulimate-for-free/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Can we be sure?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it possible to know that these Bastillwork aren't providing pirated license keys? Can they give any guarantee it is not from a keygen?

What they are asking you to do helps to have their articles "stumbled" so they get a lot of traffic, and through their advertising earn a lot of money. 

That money is enough to buy licensed copies, but unless someone can prove to me this is legit, I'm inclined to think it's not legit. 

Can anyone geniunely prove it is legit? Once you used your license key were you able to activate properly with any of those programs?

Cheers and thanks

A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it possible to know that these Bastillwork aren&#8217;t providing pirated license keys? Can they give any guarantee it is not from a keygen?</p>
<p>What they are asking you to do helps to have their articles &#8220;stumbled&#8221; so they get a lot of traffic, and through their advertising earn a lot of money. </p>
<p>That money is enough to buy licensed copies, but unless someone can prove to me this is legit, I&#8217;m inclined to think it&#8217;s not legit. </p>
<p>Can anyone geniunely prove it is legit? Once you used your license key were you able to activate properly with any of those programs?</p>
<p>Cheers and thanks</p>
<p>A.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Hardware IT Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Get Windows Vista Ulimate For Free!</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Get Windows Vista Ulimate For Free! by Michael Aulia</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/07/get-windows-vista-ulimate-for-free/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the linky :) 

Well I got my Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0 from them before for a 1-year license (I'm using it at the moment). The license seems legit (as said by Van from bastillwork) as it will certainly be blacklisted by now, if not.

Van has given me the license key for the Vista yesterday :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the linky <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well I got my Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0 from them before for a 1-year license (I&#8217;m using it at the moment). The license seems legit (as said by Van from bastillwork) as it will certainly be blacklisted by now, if not.</p>
<p>Van has given me the license key for the Vista yesterday <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Being Salty &#038; Not Wealthy by Rodney Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/05/being-salty-not-wealthy/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm always impressed with Piper's enthusiasm and thoroughness. I listen to his sermons via podcast most weeks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Being Salty &#038; Not Wealthy by Bosco Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2008/07/05/being-salty-not-wealthy/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosco Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - I think people confuse means &#38; ends/goals
&#38; use God as a means
not our goal.
I wouldn't let "crusade" so easily trip off my tongue however.
Salt in Jesus' day was a preservative (of the good) and antiseptic (of the bad). 
I got here from the FB blogger's group.
cool site.
Hope you'll visit my "Liturgy" 
www.liturgy.co.nz
&#38; link.
Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes - I think people confuse means &amp; ends/goals<br />
&amp; use God as a means<br />
not our goal.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t let &#8220;crusade&#8221; so easily trip off my tongue however.<br />
Salt in Jesus&#8217; day was a preservative (of the good) and antiseptic (of the bad).<br />
I got here from the FB blogger&#8217;s group.<br />
cool site.<br />
Hope you&#8217;ll visit my &#8220;Liturgy&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.liturgy.co.nz" >http://www.liturgy.co.nz</a><br />
&amp; link.<br />
Blessings</p>
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		<dc:creator>LayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your messages. I'm blown away thinking that I'm not the only person who loves this song!</description>
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		<title>Comment on El Shaddai by JC from Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC from Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched it with my 2-year old. Apart from the first 20 sec she kept asking me who is El Shaddai (not bad that she could tell it's a person hey?!), the rest 3 minutes she was transfixed, not a move, not a sound, I have never seen her so engaged. Hearing the song again, sang by the writer, I am blessed, and reminded, and refreshed. Thanks for always sharing some good stuff, Layguy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched it with my 2-year old. Apart from the first 20 sec she kept asking me who is El Shaddai (not bad that she could tell it&#8217;s a person hey?!), the rest 3 minutes she was transfixed, not a move, not a sound, I have never seen her so engaged. Hearing the song again, sang by the writer, I am blessed, and reminded, and refreshed. Thanks for always sharing some good stuff, Layguy.</p>
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		<dc:creator>666 &#187; Bush On Biometric ID System</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bush On Biometric ID System  Interesting video I came across just now on Bush discussing the need to introduce a “biometric ID system” which would be mandatory for all US workers.  It would also be illegal to hire anyone without this “tamper proof” ID card. Hmmm. Sounds a little scary to me.  Ironic that the video says it was recorded on 06.06.06!  Anyway, have a watch and let me know what you think… ShareThis [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my.  Still the chills come after all these years!  I remember when I finally discovered that this was Michael Card's song and not Amy Grant's.  I should have read the liner notes more carefully on that LP back in '83.

BTW - does anyone know who the woman was singing along with Michael here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my.  Still the chills come after all these years!  I remember when I finally discovered that this was Michael Card&#8217;s song and not Amy Grant&#8217;s.  I should have read the liner notes more carefully on that LP back in &#8216;83.</p>
<p>BTW - does anyone know who the woman was singing along with Michael here?</p>
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