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	<title>Comments on: Bill Hybels says &#8220;We Made A Mistake&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: LayGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-2260</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow - ads for jewellery are satanic?  Never knew that!  Thanks for enlightening me! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; ads for jewellery are satanic?  Never knew that!  Thanks for enlightening me! <img src='http://www.layguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bill Hybels all along thought and said that he was doing the &quot;right&quot; thing, that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that it was always true. Even now he says he made a mistake.

CONVERSELY, though, just because he now says that he feels he made a mistake, that doesn&#039;t mean for a second that there is not some extremely useful material in his published work.

The REAL danger would be to limit ourselves to learning only from those are are getting it right and not making any mistakes. Not one of us lives up to that standard. Any of us that are being used by God must understand that it is in spite of ourselves. 

He may be at a point where he is seeing the need to drive with a different kind of passion or to embrace a different understanding of what it means to serve and disciple, but we are all often the worse judges of our own fruit, especially when trying to compare it to the fruit of someone else.

The gospel is not a message to be memorized, debated, intellectualized, or finalized solely in the academia of &quot;theology.&quot; It is to be lived as a message of peace and hope. 

What is the difference between a church that is sensitive to the heart of a seeker and a church that is sensitive to the heart of the religious traditionalist? It all depends on the person to whom you are trying to reach out. Christ demonstrated a high value on being sensitive to knowing and speaking the language and getting to the heart of a seeker and making sure that the connection was made before he invited his seeker to come (go) and sin no more. It was the religious leaders, pious and proud of their holiness that he rebuked and to whom he challenged to live with the faith of children.

So whether Bill looks back and recognizes God working through his imperfect life, books, and messages or not, we don&#039;t have to question the possibility of God working through people all around us.

Let me know if you find the pastor/ speaker whose material *shouldn&#039;t* be filtered through context and comparison to scripture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bill Hybels all along thought and said that he was doing the &#8220;right&#8221; thing, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that it was always true. Even now he says he made a mistake.</p>
<p>CONVERSELY, though, just because he now says that he feels he made a mistake, that doesn&#8217;t mean for a second that there is not some extremely useful material in his published work.</p>
<p>The REAL danger would be to limit ourselves to learning only from those are are getting it right and not making any mistakes. Not one of us lives up to that standard. Any of us that are being used by God must understand that it is in spite of ourselves. </p>
<p>He may be at a point where he is seeing the need to drive with a different kind of passion or to embrace a different understanding of what it means to serve and disciple, but we are all often the worse judges of our own fruit, especially when trying to compare it to the fruit of someone else.</p>
<p>The gospel is not a message to be memorized, debated, intellectualized, or finalized solely in the academia of &#8220;theology.&#8221; It is to be lived as a message of peace and hope. </p>
<p>What is the difference between a church that is sensitive to the heart of a seeker and a church that is sensitive to the heart of the religious traditionalist? It all depends on the person to whom you are trying to reach out. Christ demonstrated a high value on being sensitive to knowing and speaking the language and getting to the heart of a seeker and making sure that the connection was made before he invited his seeker to come (go) and sin no more. It was the religious leaders, pious and proud of their holiness that he rebuked and to whom he challenged to live with the faith of children.</p>
<p>So whether Bill looks back and recognizes God working through his imperfect life, books, and messages or not, we don&#8217;t have to question the possibility of God working through people all around us.</p>
<p>Let me know if you find the pastor/ speaker whose material *shouldn&#8217;t* be filtered through context and comparison to scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing to be wary of regarding contemporary christian music.  Try not to go around scaring people with legalistic outbursts.</description>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is that Satanic advert for Satanistic jewelry doing in your webpage? Can I suggest that you find out? I am glad that a seeker-sensitive church has repented...they are not preaching the gospel of Christ but entertaining the unrepentant. It would be great if more could turn from their worldliness! Beware of Contemporary Christian Music too - it is also advertised on this site!
Yours faithfully,
Debbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is that Satanic advert for Satanistic jewelry doing in your webpage? Can I suggest that you find out? I am glad that a seeker-sensitive church has repented&#8230;they are not preaching the gospel of Christ but entertaining the unrepentant. It would be great if more could turn from their worldliness! Beware of Contemporary Christian Music too &#8211; it is also advertised on this site!<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
Debbie</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be very nice of him to admit this problem to former Pastors from all over the world who are continuing with the tapes/videos etc from before this confession.  A letter to ALL participants is in order.
I am in South Africa and have recently watched John Ortberg&#039;s &quot;Seduction of a leader&quot; and was totally appalled that this is presented to pastors of a church.  No scripture involved, no Bible terminology at all.
Paul said &quot;I am not ashamed of the Gospel&quot;.
We change the church so that is is acceptable to the lost.  They must find out how lost they are when they come into the church.
Christ is the stumbling block over which many fall.
Churches here are still (today) seeking input from congregants as what they WANT TO HEAR.  This is very dangerous, please communicate directly with our churches in South Africa.

Yours in Christ
Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be very nice of him to admit this problem to former Pastors from all over the world who are continuing with the tapes/videos etc from before this confession.  A letter to ALL participants is in order.<br />
I am in South Africa and have recently watched John Ortberg&#8217;s &#8220;Seduction of a leader&#8221; and was totally appalled that this is presented to pastors of a church.  No scripture involved, no Bible terminology at all.<br />
Paul said &#8220;I am not ashamed of the Gospel&#8221;.<br />
We change the church so that is is acceptable to the lost.  They must find out how lost they are when they come into the church.<br />
Christ is the stumbling block over which many fall.<br />
Churches here are still (today) seeking input from congregants as what they WANT TO HEAR.  This is very dangerous, please communicate directly with our churches in South Africa.</p>
<p>Yours in Christ<br />
Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: Willow Creek Reveal Frenzy &#171; Billy Chia</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>Willow Creek Reveal Frenzy &#171; Billy Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.layguy.com/2007/10/26/bill-hybels-says-we-made-a-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff, it is big of him to admit this.

www.matthewsblog.waynesborochurchofchrist.org</description>
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