In researching this topic, the most frustrating thing I uncovered is how people get it so wrong as to fallen angels and Nephilim. Look at the text;
“When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.” Gen 6:1-4
Let’s set this straight. Angels left their position in heaven and “fell” to earth - therefore becoming the fallen angels. These beings had sex with women and bore offspring. As was described in my previous post, these fallen angels were bound and sent to Tartarus.
Their offspring, the Nephilim were allowed to wreck havoc on earth. The Book of Enoch is a text which didn’t make it into the cannon but was quoted by Jude and James - the brothers of Jesus. This book gives an extraordinary account of what happened.
“And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’
And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: ‘I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.’ And they all answered him and said: ‘Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.’
Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
And these are the names of their leaders: Samîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. These are their chiefs of tens.
And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.” Book Of Enoch. Sec 1. Chap 6-7
Compare this with the biblical account:
“The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Gen 6:5
“Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.” Gen 6:11-12
To tie this all in together, fallen angels took (abducted) women and bore offspring with them. These half spirit, half human beings were giants and were taught sorceries and all manner of occultism. Further chapters in Enoch outline how the Nephilim and mankind were also taught the means of warfare and other technologies. The end result of all this is death, destruction and evil - to the point were God was “sorry” that He made mankind.
What on earth was going on here? The fallen angels and the Nephilim were Satanic strategies to thwart the arrival of the Messiah. Think about it for a second. If you were the enemy of God and were told that your seed - your future generations - would see the culmination of this battle and that the “seed of the woman” will crush you, wouldn’t you seek to corrupt the seed of the woman?
In other words, Satan and his 1/3 of heaven set into motion an attempt to defile the genetic makeup of man - thereby preventing the “seed of the woman” - the Messiah - to be born. According to the Book of Enoch, 200 fallen angels impregnated women and offspring were born. Replicate this time and time again and let it run for generations and you start to see that mankind’s gene pool had some serious issues.
But Noah, good old Noah was different for he found favour in God’s eyes. The trick is to know why he found favour and I will cover this next time. But going back to fallen angels and the Nephilim, there is a a serious question to be asked..
What are demons?
Satan and his 1/3 of heaven are not demons. Some have been imprisoned for what they did pre-flood. However they are angels - beings with the ability to manifest physically - just ask the women impregnated by them as to how physical they are.
Are demons Nephilim? No as they were destroyed by the flood and the conquest of Canaan when they re-surfaced again before Israel took possession of the land.
There is a thought that demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim seeking embodiment again as they cannot manifest physically. That’s why demons need to posses instead of manifest.
Chew on that one for awhile and then reconsider if you think this study is not relevant to our Christian walk.
Tags: Nephilim, Fallen Angels, Book of Enoch, Noah, Genetics, Demons
Being only familiar with the teaching that demons are fallen angels, I was quite suprised to learn the earliest Christian writers, outside the Scriptures, seem to favor the idea the demons are the spirits of the nephilim that perished in the flood.
Here are some quotes:
“The angels trangressed this appointment and were captivated by love of women. And they begat children, who are those who are called demons” - Justin Matyr.
“… and the souls of giants, who are the demons who wander around the world …” - Athengaoras
“Furthermore, we are instructed by our sacred books how from certain agnels, who fell of their own free will, there sprang a more wicked demon brood, condemed of God along with the authors of their race.” - Tertullian
“From the seed [of the fallen angels and women], giants are said to be born. …. because they were of an evil seed, the Almighty did not approve of their being brought back from death when they had died. For that reason, they wander and now subvert many bodies.” - Commodianus
“However, those who were born from [the relations of angels with women] - because they were neither angels nor men, but had a mixed nature - were not admitted into Hades [when they died]. Similarly, their fathers had not been admitted into heaven, either. Thus there came to be two kinds of demons: one of heaven, the other of the earth. The latter are the wicked spirits, who are the authors of all the evils tha tare done.” - Lactantius
“In my opinion, it is certain wicked demons (so to speak, of the race of Titans or Giants) who have been guilty of impiety toward the true God and towad the angels in heaven.” “Among angels, some are angels of God, and others are angels of the devil. But among the demons, there is no such distinction. For they are all said to be wicked.” - Origen
Hi Anthony.
First of all, thanks for stopping by and visiting. Secondly, I really appreciate your attitude to how you responded to this topic. Even though it challenged your long held beliefs, you did your homework - and did it very well indeed.
Thank you so much for the quotes above. I need to keep my thinking and writing succinct as there is so much to cover here. At the back of my mind are all the references I have checked out in my studies here but to detract to them would derail me from sticking to the text.
So thank you so much for doing this for me. Indeed it is true that nearly all the early Church fathers and historians believed in the story as described above.
The “lines of Seth” theory was introduced as an alternative explanation to smooth over the most controversial topic in the whole bible - the union of angels and humans producing the Nephilim. In suppressing this story, so much of the Bible doesn’t make sense including the origins of demons and the brutality of God’s commands in the conquest of Canaan.
Indeed we are still locked into battle between the war of the seeds and will continue to be until our Lord finally crushes the seed of the serpent and the lake of fire welcomes it’s patron guest.
I encourage you to follow this series of posts and help me fill in the blanks with your own research. Once again, thank you.
Interesting. You got me really thinking about this one.
I do not believe that all the genetics of angels have been wiped off the face of the earth. I believe that it does exit in the human race to this mostly in a dormant state although you do see it occasionally in the giants of today (the really tall people - that is where exagerated growth of the humans come from. The israelites- God’s people - are stress in the bible as being short.
I believe that as the bible is written in an alpha (genesis) and omega(revelations). This is also a proof that the bible is inspired by God because, although the first book written is the book of Job, God has arranged it in this way.
If you compare Genesis and Revelations you can see that we are returning to Genesis in Revelations. There are so many ways I see this. In Revelations we the “mark” again just as the mark God put on Cain. We see Eden revisited in the Millenium reign on earth. We see man being lead astray again, when the Devil is released from the abyss, even after experience the good of God. And these people are eternally damned because in the bible it says that there is no more salvation for those who are experiencing the power and glory of God to turn away. That is why their is no salvation for the fallen angels. Last but most of all is the recreation of heaven and earth as happened in Genesis but now to perfection with no night.
I am was trying to say is that angel genes are still in the human race and one day two of them will combine and we will see them again. I think that that may be what is being said in revelations. I am not to sure if that also means a revistation by some of those fallen angels like in the Begining of the Bible.
Isn’t it amazing how we can see God in everything he does. He is truly the Alpha and the Omega.
Joyangel123
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What is keeping the angels of current from having sexual relations with women now?
Were all the fallen angels cast into tartarus? Aren’t some of the fallen angels not bound? Like Satan is not bound, didn’t he have a following of angels that are not bound in tartarus?
Your questions above are the key to understanding this disturbing scenario. Genesis 6 talks about the time before the flood and “afterwards”. So this unholy mingling doesn’t seem to be restricted to just before the flood.
In time, I will address this question and you will understand why God ordered the destruction on the people as the Israelites entered the promised land.
Furthermore we’ll also peek into prophecy to see if there are hints of this happening again in the future. Revelation alludes to these angels in chains being let loose again. Daniel talks about a coming world kingdom where two seeds are “mingled”.
Stay tuned.
Very interesting.
Also, in relation to this subject, have you studied the Illuminati? Many people believe these people are the ones that orchestrate events like the french revolution, pearl harbor, 9/11, etc. in order to move their agenda forward which is a New World Order. Their traces are left all over history and up to present day. The relation to this subject is that there is a theory that the pure Illuminati bloodlines are of a different race, a more “reptillian” type breed. Perhaps an offspring from these angel-human hybrid? What do you think?
Also, it seems like Angels don’t need to possess people since they can manifest themselves in human form. But can’t Satan take possession of someone? Like what about Judas Iscariot, didn’t Satan enter into him? Also, won’t the anti-christ be possessed by Satan?
Also, what are your thoughts on “aliens” do you think these can be angels?
I look forward to reading more of your things.
Take care!
That thought has always crossed my mind. I do believe that aliens are angels. This can be the only logical explanation for aliens. Angel are
infinitely more advanced having been in heaven. They have sure done a number on the human race.
Joyangel123
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Me and JoyAngel.
First of all, Me, I do wish you would ID yourself as I want to know where you are coming from and JoyAngel your link points to a picture I have no idea about.
Me, the Illumanti I have thinly researched. In saying so, I have read a number of books about this group. To me, it’s conspiracy theory gone wild. Outrageous claims that seem far fetched. Having said that, I don’t dismiss them at the slightest. I just keep watch.
NWO - Yes I believe this is a goal of some of the elite - even the bible points to this - the feet of iron mixed with clay is a world kingdom present when Christ returns. Will this be done by the Illuminati? Don’t know. Suspect they are a front.
Aliens and Angels? I have to be careful in my answer here in that I do believe in UFO’s and I do believe their origin is spiritual. But many people have gone so nuts in this area that they discredit themselves along the way.
UFO’s are clearly hyper dimensional as the evidence they leave are against the laws of reality - at least as we know it. I don’t believe in some advanced race living in a far away galaxy. I personally believe that earth is the only life bearing planet in the universe. The anthropic principle nails this for me.
To me, UFO’s seem to exist on more dimensions than we humans do and their feats are easily explained when viewed from this perspective. The secular world calls this reality the “metaphysical”. Christians call it the spiritual world. Same thing really.
As for demon possession, my take is that God gave mankind the ultimate “condom” against demonic possession - human will. Unfortunately through sin and/or altered states due to drugs and alcohol, this condom is punctured all over the place and evil simply spills in like grains of sand through a tennis racket. Judas was a destined tennis racket - I’ll let the Calvinist chew on that one.
But one thing I need to emphasize is the need to remain logically sound in our discussions here. People reading this will think we’re nuts if we don’t back our line of thinking with logic and spiritual truth. Logic they can understand but spiritual truth is as slippery as melting butter.
I tend to dismiss outlandish claims if they don’t stack up to the whole of scripture. What are my thoughts compared to that of God? Nada thank you very much!
JoyAngel - I hear where you are coming from. These fallen angles are a diabolical menace to mankind. Their offspring, I believe, are the demons we face today. And one day, we will have to contend against them again as stated in Revelations and Daniel. But lets keep our conversation as close to palatable as possible to the masses - and that includes the Christian masses also as many have decided to ignore these facts.
Interesting replies guys.
Anyways, I will make a quick reply here and maybe some more later…
My point about demon possession was that in your article it gave the impression that fallen angels do not possess people as they have no need since they can physically manifest themselves unlike demons. But then… wasn’t Judas Iscariot possessed by an angel, Satan himself? And I also had an impression that the Antichrist would be possessed by Satan - I would have to do the research to see if this is backed up by scripture?
Also, would you elaborate a bit more on your thoughts on UFOs?
And what do the fallen angels do? We all know what demons are capable of.. but what about the fallen angels?
You also mentioned demi-gods around the world, suggesting this to be referencing to the demon offsprings. What do you believe about the leaders in Egypt and the like who believed themselves to be gods?
And, finally, about the Illuminati, what books have you read? Yes, you will have to sort through the well here, to find the solid, smoking gun proof type material that is out there. The Illuminati has really left their mark all over history. There are some very revealing quotes from presidents and the like. Ralph Epperson’s “The Unseen Hand” is a good read about the “conspirational” view of history. He has also written a book on The Illuminati. Also Ted Flynn’s “Hope of the Wicked” is a good book on this subject matter with more education than conspiracy. I hope you will look into the Illuminati more as I believe it ties in with your material here. Because… and I may be sounding a bit conspirational here.. but what if these demi-god, demon offsprings, that have been worshipped in Biblical times and throughout ancient history… what if it is still ongoing to this very day, it has just gone underground. I believe there is evidence of this and ties in with the Illuminati group which is said to have its origins way back to Biblical times from the mystery religions. And the “mystery” of these secret societies as defined by one of their founders are the rituals they perform which is steeped in occult.
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There’s this movie called Perfect Creature. I want to see it. Has anyone seen this movie and what do you think of it.
Joyangel123
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